The defense authorization acts of 2023 and 2024 respectively have been very revealing as to the stage of Western decline. The elites of other civilizations have generally wanted their own people to succeed, but in America, the elites hate their own people so much. View them as peons, marigins, and insects.
It is impossible. Western draft age people are not physically, mentally or emotionally fit to serve or have enough attatchment to their country to do so.
Don’t worry, as long as America’s “friends” are drafting folks, it will be just like Ukraine only with Germans, Poles, French, etc. The U.S. has a special hell planned for us.
It would literally make a world of difference if elected officials had to serve in 'conflict zones' (see the damage done to real humans)to qualify for office.
You know, here in the States when someone is in the Services they have their 1st Amendment curtailed by the oath they have to take. I don't know the specifics and I'll look it up, but I believe they can't openly criticize the government. Not at all sure on the details, but I'm wondering if you're right about it not being about "going to war" in the short term. Maybe the UK and Europe have similar restrictions on speech in their Armed Services?
Of course "extremist" is in the eye of the beholder:
Announced on June 26, 2024, {The new rules clarify soldiers — on active duty or in the Reserve or National Guard — cannot knowingly participate in or support any extremist activity in or out of uniform, according to two new memorandums that Army Secretary Christine Wormuth sent to the force Wednesday. Those caught supporting extremist or gang activity — including wearing clothing, flying flags or sporting bumper stickers on their vehicles in support of extremist views — must be reported to their commanders, who are now required to report all such allegations to the Defense Department inspector general and the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division, according to the memos. “Active participation in extremist activities can be prohibited even in some circumstances in which such activities would be constitutionally protected in a civilian setting,”}
We have good old "Bone Spurs" that dodged service even though, like the ruling class families in the States that only get put on clerical duty in the States. Used to be way behind the Lines clerical duty starting around WWII, I think.
Just an aside, my brother went into the Army during Vietnam even though at that time everyone knew it was a corporate war, a civil war and atrocities were happening, the advertising was wearing off.
He went in disapproving of the war like so many others at the time, he joined because he felt he needed to be there for all the soldiers that were there, that were damaged, that were sacrificed and the sacrifice their families and loved ones made.
Weird, though or perhaps not, he doesn't want thanking on Veterans Day. I asked him why and he mumbled that he didn't believe being at a desk and his life not really being impacted warranted the thanks others earned along with their loved ones. He got placed in a State side job in Virginia not by choice or privilege, but because he didn't qualify for "active duty" physically. It isn't that he wanted to see "action", of course. He never wanted to harm anyone.
Can you imagine any of those privileged guys feeling conflicted like that?
Yes, he is and I'll bet there's a lot like him that we don't hear about. No, we hear how this 'want to be' politician, like Bush couldn't even handle the National Guard in his home state. He was AWOL the whole time. His family and handlers denied it, I guess he just occasionally by accident went invisible 3/4 of the time. There are a lot of politicians got groomed that way when it was fashionable.
The defense authorization acts of 2023 and 2024 respectively have been very revealing as to the stage of Western decline. The elites of other civilizations have generally wanted their own people to succeed, but in America, the elites hate their own people so much. View them as peons, marigins, and insects.
I hope conscription is a red line people will refuse to cross when they vote.
It is impossible. Western draft age people are not physically, mentally or emotionally fit to serve or have enough attatchment to their country to do so.
Don’t worry, as long as America’s “friends” are drafting folks, it will be just like Ukraine only with Germans, Poles, French, etc. The U.S. has a special hell planned for us.
Maybe Sunak should be forced to fight or lose his money if he refuses.
Is he in the Age frame of conscription?
It would literally make a world of difference if elected officials had to serve in 'conflict zones' (see the damage done to real humans)to qualify for office.
He is not in that age frame. Like all politicians, he knows he can send others to die for the people that matter.
That's Ugly Policy.
Preparing for war- so ugly.
Meant to say the Trump family had the means and clout to get him a cushy position in the States. But he hates taking orders, truly hates it.
If you watch Cyrus Jansen YouTube vid, it shows that at present both the US and UK want Ukraine to seek peace settlement.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ujEKs94uRTE
At 3:20 mark.
It is 9 out of 10 people want peace settlement.
You mean the people without agendas?
You know, here in the States when someone is in the Services they have their 1st Amendment curtailed by the oath they have to take. I don't know the specifics and I'll look it up, but I believe they can't openly criticize the government. Not at all sure on the details, but I'm wondering if you're right about it not being about "going to war" in the short term. Maybe the UK and Europe have similar restrictions on speech in their Armed Services?
Of course "extremist" is in the eye of the beholder:
Announced on June 26, 2024, {The new rules clarify soldiers — on active duty or in the Reserve or National Guard — cannot knowingly participate in or support any extremist activity in or out of uniform, according to two new memorandums that Army Secretary Christine Wormuth sent to the force Wednesday. Those caught supporting extremist or gang activity — including wearing clothing, flying flags or sporting bumper stickers on their vehicles in support of extremist views — must be reported to their commanders, who are now required to report all such allegations to the Defense Department inspector general and the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division, according to the memos. “Active participation in extremist activities can be prohibited even in some circumstances in which such activities would be constitutionally protected in a civilian setting,”}
Read more at: https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2024-06-26/army-soldiers-extremism-gangs-14306596.html
Source - Stars and Stripes
We have good old "Bone Spurs" that dodged service even though, like the ruling class families in the States that only get put on clerical duty in the States. Used to be way behind the Lines clerical duty starting around WWII, I think.
Absolutely!
Just an aside, my brother went into the Army during Vietnam even though at that time everyone knew it was a corporate war, a civil war and atrocities were happening, the advertising was wearing off.
He went in disapproving of the war like so many others at the time, he joined because he felt he needed to be there for all the soldiers that were there, that were damaged, that were sacrificed and the sacrifice their families and loved ones made.
Weird, though or perhaps not, he doesn't want thanking on Veterans Day. I asked him why and he mumbled that he didn't believe being at a desk and his life not really being impacted warranted the thanks others earned along with their loved ones. He got placed in a State side job in Virginia not by choice or privilege, but because he didn't qualify for "active duty" physically. It isn't that he wanted to see "action", of course. He never wanted to harm anyone.
Can you imagine any of those privileged guys feeling conflicted like that?
Yes, he is and I'll bet there's a lot like him that we don't hear about. No, we hear how this 'want to be' politician, like Bush couldn't even handle the National Guard in his home state. He was AWOL the whole time. His family and handlers denied it, I guess he just occasionally by accident went invisible 3/4 of the time. There are a lot of politicians got groomed that way when it was fashionable.